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giadoe		#61	[-]
Posts: 2808 (09/05/2008 3:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	ojos Sara wrote: I really should have known that considering how much we covered that in my open econ class last spring. I think you are heading to the right direction in this discussion though. The Fed has far more influence in economy than the president even though the president is always the one who gets the glory or the blame. (kind of like NFL Quarterback, I guess lol....if you get good linemen or defense, you still get the most glory ). Paul Volcker, the Fed chairman under Carter and Reagan, was the one who "intentionally" created recession by tightening the money supply to fight inflation. However, since the effect is usually cyclical, Carter administration got it worst (double digit inflation and double digit employment) and Reagan got the beneficiary of the policy. The good news is that oil price is dropping because USD is getting stronger again. So I think, things are not as bleak as we fear and might be looking up in the coming months and Bernanke legacy will not be as bad as it was earlier this year. I am afraid of Paul Volcker though...he's one of Obama's economic advisor. He talked about our economy fundamental and if he put the same policy as late 70s or early 80s, I think we should be ready for a lot of pains before we see any gains. Whether the pain is necessary, I don't know
giadoe		#62	[-]
Posts: 2809 (09/05/2008 3:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	twilightschild wrote: gscaleta wrote: twilightschild wrote: bigley22 wrote: You can't CHANGE shit if the current government is hell bent on not admitting there's a real problem in the first place!!!! That hypocrisy line is a joke. The current government consists of a lot more than just the President. Congress has as much if not more power in the country than any President and it's a Democratic led Congress. Until Congress works together, both Democrats and Republicans, on figuring out some solutions to the problems this country faces, nothing will change no matter who the President is. Democratic led by one vote. And in two years, the Democrats are supposed to fix the things the Republicans have been fucking up for the last 14? Wasn't Clinton in office during part of those 14 years? I'm not pointing fingers mind you. Just stating a fact. The previous poster said that Congress had more power than the President. Clinton was the president. Hence, the Republican led Congress had more power than Clinton. I might have gotten that 14 years wrong though. I can't remember if the Republicans took over in '92 or '96. My husband said the best economy will be fiscally conservative democrat with Republican congress (similar to Clinton era). He said that's one of the reason why Clinton has one of the longest economy expansion under his administration. For me, I think Clinton might be lucky too because it coincided with innovation/enterpreneurship of internet/dot com bubble.
Erikaluv		#63	[-]
Posts: 2084 (09/05/2008 4:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous!
Capricorn1229		#64	[-]
Posts: 4036 (09/05/2008 4:04 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! FTW!
giadoe		#65	[-]
Posts: 2810 (09/05/2008 4:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! How could the last 8 years worst than the late 70s and 80s? Who told you that? I don't make excuse with Bush and I don't think McCain = Bush but everyone who lived through Jim Carter era and early Reagan era will tell you that things were far worst then. In the 70s and early 80s, we had double digit unemployment and double digit inflation combined with high gas price. Today, we have 6% unemployment and 3% inflation.
Erikaluv		#66	[-]
Posts: 2085 (09/05/2008 4:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	babydtc23 wrote: Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! Are you directing this post to me? No, I am directing this post to Republicans period. Unless you are willing to admit that you lead an exceptional, financially substanial life - whereas the things that have occured do not necessarily apply, or affect you, I truly don't understand where you are coming from as a Republican. Why do you want anything or anyone in the White House making trying times harder for anyone? How do you benefit, other than getting richer? Does women having 'that choice' really affect you that much? Do gays and lesbians disturb you that much? You can care about what they're doing and what the President will do 'about them', but could care a less about how hard he/she would make it for 95% of the rest of the world? I don't get it. Republicans are backwards. Edited By: Erikaluv 09/05/2008 4:14 PM. Edited 1 times.
Alex the Goob		#67	[-]
Posts: 38038 (09/05/2008 4:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! YES.
Erikaluv		#68	[-]
Posts: 2086 (09/05/2008 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	giadoe wrote: Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! How could the last 8 years worst than the late 70s and 80s? Who told you that? I don't make excuse with Bush and I don't think McCain = Bush but everyone who lived through Jim Carter era and early Reagan era will tell you that things were far worst then. In the 70s and early 80s, we had double digit unemployment and double digit inflation combined with high gas price. Today, we have 6% unemployment and 3% inflation. I won't even go any further than this... They were both Republicans. I rest my case.
Alex the Goob		#69	[-]
Posts: 38040 (09/05/2008 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: No, I am directing this post to Republicans period. Unless you are willing to admit that you lead an exceptional, financially substanial life - whereas the things that have occured do not necessarily apply, or affect you, I truly don't understand where you are coming from as a Republican. Why do you would want anything or anyone in the White House making trying times harder for anyone? How do you benefit, other than getting richer? Does women having 'that choice' really affect you that much? Do gays and lesbians disturb you that much? You can care about what they're doing and what the President will do 'about them', but could care a less about how hard he/she would make it for 95% of the rest of the world? I don't get it. Republicans are backwards. I love you so much at this moment.
giadoe		#70	[-]
Posts: 2811 (09/05/2008 4:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: giadoe wrote: Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! How could the last 8 years worst than the late 70s and 80s? Who told you that? I don't make excuse with Bush and I don't think McCain = Bush but everyone who lived through Jim Carter era and early Reagan era will tell you that things were far worst then. In the 70s and early 80s, we had double digit unemployment and double digit inflation combined with high gas price. Today, we have 6% unemployment and 3% inflation. I won't even go any further than this... They were both Republicans. I rest my case. Sorry, Jim Carter is not republican. He's a liberal democrat. He was the one who appointed Paul Volcker who is now the economic advisor for Barack Obama.
Capricorn1229		#71	[-]
Posts: 4037 (09/05/2008 4:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: No, I am directing this post to Republicans period. Unless you are willing to admit that you lead an exceptional, financially substanial life - whereas the things that have occured do not necessarily apply, or affect you, I truly don't understand where you are coming from as a Republican. Why do you would want anything or anyone in the White House making trying times harder for anyone? How do you benefit, other than getting richer? Does women having 'that choice' really affect you that much? Do gays and lesbians disturb you that much? You can care about what they're doing and what the President will do 'about them', but could care a less about how hard he/she would make it for 95% of the rest of the world? I don't get it. Republicans are backwards. You put it so eloquently. ITA. Thank you for your gold post no bullshit.
NickelodeonSucksLoL		#72	[-]
Posts: 2220 (09/05/2008 4:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I think she meant Reagan, not Carter.
Erikaluv		#73	[-]
Posts: 2087 (09/05/2008 4:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	James R. Carter? I thought he was a Republican from Kentucky. Just goes to show you my history skills. But I'm not here to be a History teacher - I'm here to talk about the now I'm living in at this very point in time. TIMES ARE HARD, and worse than they've been in a long time. I got into an unnecessary debate on here with another Republican over the same ridiculousness. I shouldn't have said that...cause times like The Great Depression were worse! Alrighty then.
giadoe		#74	[-]
Posts: 2812 (09/05/2008 4:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	NickelodeonSucksLoL wrote: I think she meant Reagan, not Carter. yeah but under Reagan, we no longer have double digit inflation and unemployment. The economy turned around.
giadoe		#75	[-]
Posts: 2813 (09/05/2008 4:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: James R. Carter? I thought he was a Republican from Kentucky. Just goes to show you my history skills. But I'm not here to be a History teacher - I'm here to talk about the now I'm living in at this very point in time. TIMES ARE HARD, and worse than they've been in a long time. I got into an unnecessary debate on here with another Republican over the same ridiculousness. I shouldn't have said that...cause times like The Great Depression were worse! Alrighty then. you are the one who said we are in the worst economy situation in the last 80 years. If you do your homework, you should know that things were far worst in the late 70s and early 80s. It's not my fault that you don't do your homework. If you want turn around and do personal attacks, just go ahead What a way to generalize people....why don't you rebuke my statements with facts?
Erikaluv		#76	[-]
Posts: 2088 (09/05/2008 4:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	babydtc23 wrote: I think you are generalizing all Republicans, I lean more Republican and am in no way shape or form rich. Many people have to weigh each issue and prioritize what is most important to them and their country. I am pro-choice but would never personally have an abortion. I don't agree with hunting as a sport but I eat meat. I hate guns but believe in the right to bear arms. It's not just Republicans either, not everyone votes according to ceratin criteria. A business owner may vote for whomever is willing to protect their business and the abortion issue doesn't even matter to them. Some extreme pro-life people may disagree with everything a Republican stands for but will vote Republican everytime due that fact alone. Some Democrats vote soley based on being pro-choice, soley based on party, or maybe sex or skin color, and vice versa. This isn't just Republicans bad, Democrats have it all figured out. I'm going to give you one last chance to tell me why you're a Republican...and then I might say something that may, or may not, offend you. Depends on how true it is.
Alex the Goob		#77	[-]
Posts: 38044 (09/05/2008 4:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Erikaluv wrote: babydtc23 wrote: I think you are generalizing all Republicans, I lean more Republican and am in no way shape or form rich. Many people have to weigh each issue and prioritize what is most important to them and their country. I am pro-choice but would never personally have an abortion. I don't agree with hunting as a sport but I eat meat. I hate guns but believe in the right to bear arms. It's not just Republicans either, not everyone votes according to ceratin criteria. A business owner may vote for whomever is willing to protect their business and the abortion issue doesn't even matter to them. Some extreme pro-life people may disagree with everything a Republican stands for but will vote Republican everytime due that fact alone. Some Democrats vote soley based on being pro-choice, soley based on party, or maybe sex or skin color, and vice versa. This isn't just Republicans bad, Democrats have it all figured out. I'm going to give you one last chance to tell me why you're a Republican...and then I might say something that may, or may not, offend you. Depends on how true it is.
Firefox Goddess		#78	[-]
Posts: 3198 (09/05/2008 4:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	giadoe wrote: NickelodeonSucksLoL wrote: I think she meant Reagan, not Carter. yeah but under Reagan, we no longer have double digit inflation and unemployment. The economy turned around. Can you imagine how much better off we would have been if Reagan didn't sign the '86 tax increase? One of the few major mistakes Reagan made was going along with the Dems on raising taxes.
Neon Bird		#79	[-]
Posts: 455 (09/05/2008 4:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	There's the Reagan corpse humping. And they make fun of the Obama people.
NickelodeonSucksLoL		#80	[-]
Posts: 2221 (09/05/2008 4:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	babydtc23 wrote: Erikaluv wrote: babydtc23 wrote: Erikaluv wrote: Hmm... Can there seriously be one? I'm all for difference of opinions, debates, hell, even old-fashioned arguing but uh, have something to say? Make sense? Provide answers to what is asked. NOBODY - not one Republican - has ever been able to answer this. Not her, not on TV, or the streets. How do you support an administration (now, campaign) that has told you, hell, exemplified that they will be NO different from the last 8 years, which have been the worst years this country has seen in over 80+ years? I think its a fairly simply question. And that is why many people, Democratic or Independent, cannot quite wrap their minds around you, let alone, respect you. That's ridiculous! Are you directing this post to me? No, I am directing this post to Republicans period. Unless you are willing to admit that you lead an exceptional, financially substanial life - whereas the things that have occured do not necessarily apply, or affect you, I truly don't understand where you are coming from as a Republican. Why do you would want anything or anyone in the White House making trying times harder for anyone? How do you benefit, other than getting richer? Does women having 'that choice' really affect you that much? Do gays and lesbians disturb you that much? You can care about what they're doing and what the President will do 'about them', but could care a less about how hard he/she would make it for 95% of the rest of the world? I don't get it. Republicans are backwards. I think you are generalizing all Republicans, I lean more Republican and am in no way shape or form rich. Many people have to weigh each issue and prioritize what is most important to them and their country. I am pro-choice but would never personally have an abortion. I don't agree with hunting as a sport but I eat meat. I hate guns but believe in the right to bear arms. It's not just Republicans either, not everyone votes according to ceratin criteria. A business owner may vote for whomever is willing to protect their business and the abortion issue doesn't even matter to them. Some extreme pro-life people may disagree with everything a Republican stands for but will vote Republican everytime due that fact alone. Some Democrats vote soley based on being pro-choice, soley based on party, or maybe sex or skin color, and vice versa. This isn't just Republicans bad, Democrats have it all figured out. Generalization/generalizing must be your favorite term. It's all generalizations because it can't be anything else!!! None of us know the entire world's population of human inhabitants personally, so it's all generalizations. So stop talking about it completely or stop criticizing those for doing the same thing you YOURSELF are doing. Generalizations are all we have here. Even some facts are generalizations, so what? Get over it or get off it. Edited By: NickelodeonSucksLoL 09/05/2008 4:33 PM. Edited 1 times.

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