Why do people care so much about gay marriage?

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JayneOC	Why do people care so much about gay marriage?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 104107 (10/21/2008 7:53 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The act of getting a marriage license is NOT a religious act. It's a civil act. After you obtain the license, you then can choose to have the ceremony performed in a church or by a civil servant (judge, etc). If for religious reasons, you don't think your church should perform gay marriages, then fine. But what does religion have to do with CIVIL ceremonies? And why do people care so much?
MonkeyMonkey85		#1	[-]
Posts: 11444 (10/21/2008 7:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I know the people at my work that actually care are the religious nuts.
MeLikeyMikey		#2	[-]
Posts: 57821 (10/21/2008 7:56 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I've never understood it. Of course, I had a couple (older) relatives that were offended because my wedding, even though it was to a man, obviously, wasn't religious. They were upset that we didn't pray or use biblical quotes. I held my tongue.
LisaChasez		#3	[-]
Posts: 100990 (10/21/2008 7:59 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because it's still called a marriage license, and people see that weirdly. If all marriage licenses were changed to something else, then fine. It's totally unconstitutional, btw. 14th Amendment. You cannot deprive one section of the population the same rights you allow another. I also think the Full Faith and Credit clause should be invoked, but others don't see that argument It will change, probably sooner than people think. After all, in a lot of states 50 years ago, white and black couldn't marry.
JayneOC		#4	[-]
Posts: 104108 (10/21/2008 8:02 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LisaChasez wrote: Because it's still called a marriage license, and people see that weirdly. If all marriage licenses were changed to something else, then fine. It's totally unconstitutional, btw. 14th Amendment. You cannot deprive one section of the population the same rights you allow another. I also think the Full Faith and Credit clause should be invoked, but others don't see that argument It will change, probably sooner than people think. After all, in a lot of states 50 years ago, white and black couldn't marry. But why do people equate marriage with religion? It's not as if marriage only exists because of religion!
LisaChasez		#5	[-]
Posts: 100992 (10/21/2008 8:03 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because the majority of people get "married" in a church. And until Napoleon came around (don't doubt me on this!) the churches were where you got married.
JayneOC		#6	[-]
Posts: 104109 (10/21/2008 8:05 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	But I'm sure there were "marriages" way before there were churches or organized religions.
LisaChasez		#7	[-]
Posts: 100995 (10/21/2008 8:07 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Are we talking Ancient Rome or Greece? Egypt? Yes, there were marriages there. but they usually had some kind of religious aspect. Not Jesus, but whatever gods they prayed to.
JayneOC		#8	[-]
Posts: 104110 (10/21/2008 8:08 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LisaChasez wrote: Are we talking Ancient Rome or Greece? Egypt? Yes, there were marriages there. but they usually had some kind of religious aspect. Not Jesus, but whatever gods they prayed to. Perhaps they had religious aspects, but weren't a lot of them entered into for more mundane reasons - property, heirs, etc.
LisaChasez		#9	[-]
Posts: 100998 (10/21/2008 8:10 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Historically, the reasons for marriage was for property/alliances or for children. So yes, you're right. But that doesn't negate the historic religious aspect of it. It had to be sanctioned by someone, regardless of the culture you're talking bout. Except the cavemen.
knowsitall621		#10	[-]
Posts: 305 (10/21/2008 8:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	People are also afraid of a slippery slope. What's next? Group Marriage? Beastiality? How about friends marrying eachother just for benefits? (Think: Chuck and Larry)
JayneOC		#11	[-]
Posts: 104111 (10/21/2008 8:13 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LisaChasez wrote: Historically, the reasons for marriage was for property/alliances or for children. So yes, you're right. But that doesn't negate the historic religious aspect of it. It had to be sanctioned by someone, regardless of the culture you're talking bout. Except the cavemen. Cavemen had the easiest marriage ceremonies! Two grunts and they were married. Followed by the traditional dragging the bride to the cave by her hair.
IdDoJC100Ways		#12	[-]
Posts: 23570 (10/21/2008 8:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I agree with the slippery slope concept. People are afraid of the "what's next?" It makes no logical sense though.
knowsitall621		#13	[-]
Posts: 306 (10/21/2008 8:20 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	rOXyPoP17 wrote: knowsitall621 wrote: People are also afraid of a slippery slope. What's next? Group Marriage? Beastiality? How about friends marrying eachother just for benefits? (Think: Chuck and Larry) Couldn't a man and woman just marry each other for benefits? And it's completely offensive and inappropriate to compare homosexuality to bestiality. Sure they could marry each other for benefits, but it's much more complicated than two males or females marrying each other. Who said I'm comparing bestiality to homosexuality? It's a crazy world we live in and who knows how much crazier it will get once gay marriage is as common as traditional marriage. BTW, humans marrying animals has existed already throughout history. I'm all about love, but people are always testing limits.
LisaChasez		#14	[-]
Posts: 101004 (10/21/2008 8:22 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	BTW, humans marrying animals has existed already throughout history. Jigga wha?
tackyblueeyeshadow		#15	[-]
Posts: 6090 (10/21/2008 8:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	knowsitall621 wrote: People are also afraid of a slippery slope. What's next? Group Marriage? Beastiality? How about friends marrying eachother just for benefits? (Think: Chuck and Larry) That's the only real argument I've heard from the super-religious people I know. Personally, I don't care who marries who. I don't think it's any of anyone else's business.
knowsitall621		#16	[-]
Posts: 307 (10/21/2008 8:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Here's an example why it's more complicated for a man and woman to marry for benefits: Sally meets Tom. They are friends. They come up with a brilliant idea to marry so Sally can get some health insurance. A few months later Sally meets the love of her life, John. John has reserves about Sally being married and decides not to risk getting too involved. He finds Sally to be unstable. He finds another woman who is single. Sally regrets missing out on a good man just for benefits. Here comes another divorce in the USA. If Sally had married her working friend Holly, she would've lived happily ever after with John. Make sense?
JayneOC		#17	[-]
Posts: 104112 (10/21/2008 8:27 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 JJB Devil '03 Best Debater '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LisaChasez wrote: BTW, humans marrying animals has existed already throughout history. Jigga wha? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human-animal_marriage
tackyblueeyeshadow		#18	[-]
Posts: 6092 (10/21/2008 8:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	knowsitall621 wrote: Here's an example why it's more complicated for a man and woman to marry for benefits: Sally meets Tom. They are friends. They come up with a brilliant idea to marry so Sally can get some health insurance. A few months later Sally meets the love of her life, John. John has reserves about Sally being married and decides not to risk getting too involved. He finds Sally to be unstable. He finds another woman who is single. Sally regrets missing out on a good man just for benefits. Here comes another divorce in the USA. If Sally had married her working friend Holly, she would've lived happily ever after with John. Make sense? No, not really.
LisaChasez		#19	[-]
Posts: 101006 (10/21/2008 8:31 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	knowsitall621 wrote: Here's an example why it's more complicated for a man and woman to marry for benefits: Sally meets Tom. They are friends. They come up with a brilliant idea to marry so Sally can get some health insurance. A few months later Sally meets the love of her life, John. John has reserves about Sally being married and decides not to risk getting too involved. He finds Sally to be unstable. He finds another woman who is single. Sally regrets missing out on a good man just for benefits. Here comes another divorce in the USA. If Sally had married her working friend Holly, she would've lived happily ever after with John. Make sense? that's just stupid. Sally would have told John she was married to tom for the benefits, same as she would if she had married Holly. And it's not the governments job to help Sally find the LOHL.
LisaChasez		#20	[-]
Posts: 101008 (10/21/2008 8:33 AM) JC Fanatic '03 JC Fanatic '05 Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '06 Most Outspoken '07 Most Likely To Reply '08 Most Opinionated '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts	As for marrying animals, that's a creepy cult thing. No government sanctions it, and since animals aren't sentient, they won't.

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