I don't think this is about religious beliefs. I think this is about equality. No on 8! 
It makes me sick that the Yes on Prop 8 site has
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 mEEEEchelle |
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Posts: 3392 (10/22/2008 3:11 AM) |
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heart affair |
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Posts: 1471 (10/22/2008 3:15 AM) |
Why is so hard to see that I have not denied anyone of their opinions, have not thrown around insulting comments, been honest and respectful, been
misquoted/misinterpreted/blatantly ignored regarding some things, and have not judged anyone, but was still told to basically take my ideas and go jump off a
cliff (as long as it's still in Texas)? I mean, come one. Where was the harm?
I've seen blatantly disrespectful, immature, arrogant, and judgmental responses leading to people getting trashed - most of the time because they provoked people, but I refrained from all of that kind of talk - and evidently stayed up until 3AM. Anyway, I'm just someone y'all don't see eye-to-eye with. I guess sometimes people can see past differences and have discussions and such... it just wasn't possible tonight. And, yes, I will agree it's about equality. Religion is just the basis of MY views, which have no relation to the law. |
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Posts: 4704 (10/22/2008 3:15 AM) |
I'm sorry but I can't respect anyone who would want to oppose equality, especially something as harmless as marriage. If atheists can 'marry,'
why not homosexuals? Man and woman...heh...it's those same man and woman in the %50 bracket of divorces that's ruining the sanctity of marriage.
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heart affair |
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Posts: 1472 (10/22/2008 3:17 AM) |
helen4rent wrote:I don't know if your specifically referring to me, but I actually agree with you. I've never claimed to be against social equality. |
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TiiNyDAnCER xX |
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Posts: 2685 (10/22/2008 3:18 AM) |
Shayme wrote:Not all Christians are this deluded. Just FYI. I was raised Catholic and still believe in certain aspects of Christianity, but whole-heartedly disagree with everything these people are saying  And in relation to the Bible, you should know by now that the Bible has been changed by so many
different people throughout history (i.e. the King James edition vs. the MILLIONS OF OTHERS that exist in the world) that you can hardly guarantee that the
stories told and the words used are actually believable. I'm not saying that the Bible is a total fabrication, but let's get serious.
And for those people that think that being homosexual is living in sin, please turn your attention to the existence of groups such as the KKK, who claim to base their practices on Christianity but have killed and continue to kill innocent people because of aspects of their existence that are completely out of their control. Is that not living in sin? And before you say that homosexuality is a choice, turn your attention to the endless mound of neuroscience research being performed that gives you plenty of evidence that it is not.War, itself, is a sinful act. Every time you disobey your parents, you have committed a sin. Eating past the point of being full is a sin. I could seriously go on and on, but I'm getting frustrated -- Basic jist of this is
that not all Christians/ people who lead their life in a way that aligns itself with the teachings of Jesus are crazy, closed-minded individuals.
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Posts: 3394 (10/22/2008 3:19 AM) |
Just against homosexual acts... oh, but not the homosexuals who may or may not perform them, because that would be wrong.
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Trileigh |
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Posts: 3097 (10/22/2008 3:20 AM) |
I just read every single post in this thread, there is a LOT I would like to address, but I am soooo tired. If it's still going strong tomorrow, I'll discuss it then. heart affair wrote:I do want to reply to this though. Shouldn't that be the point for everyone? No relation to the law? |
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Posts: 4705 (10/22/2008 3:21 AM) |
heart affair wrote: Then don't vote Yes on 8. You can also leave the ballot blank, which is a simpler solution (if your state allows you) (wtf am I talking about, this is California.)
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mEEEEchelle |
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Posts: 3395 (10/22/2008 3:24 AM) |
She isn't going to vote yes, but she isn't going to vote no, either. Apparently her choosing not to participate in these decisions means she supports
social equality.
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Posts: 516 (10/22/2008 3:25 AM) |
TiiNyDAnCER xX wrote:ITA! I was raised in a Christian family and my parents would be disappointed in me if I wanted to ban love and someones right to marry. |
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Posts: 4706 (10/22/2008 3:27 AM) |
You know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I rather she just not participate than go against her beliefs or jeebus forbid, go for her
beliefs.
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heart affair |
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Posts: 1473 (10/22/2008 3:31 AM) |
helen4rent wrote:Sorry, but have you read all my posts? And I don't think the fact that I don't judge people on the way they live and treat them the same no matter our differences makes me against social equality. |
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heart affair |
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Posts: 1474 (10/22/2008 3:33 AM) |
mEEEEchelle wrote:I don't get a vote, so thankfully, I don't have to make that choice. However, I don't feel the need to regulate how other people live, so I'm guessing spending your time on someone else would be loads more effective because there are people out there who do. |
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Posts: 4707 (10/22/2008 3:34 AM) |
Hell no. I've only started from pages 1 and 10+ Reading anymore will probably make me despise this thread.
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TiiNyDAnCER xX |
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Posts: 2689 (10/22/2008 3:34 AM) |
heart affair wrote:... I'm sorry, but that made me laugh out loud. If you aren't judging people, what are you basing your refusal to not support same-sex marriages on? Your so-called refusal to judge should warrant you to be indifferent to who gets married to whom, I'd argue. |
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Posts: 1475 (10/22/2008 3:37 AM) |
TiiNyDAnCER xX wrote:What is so hard to understand that my view of people does not change dependent on their sexual preference? You know "to judge", from a conclusion about or opinion of? My conclusions and opinions have nothing to do with them. I just don't agree with something they partake in. |
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mEEEEchelle |
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Posts: 3397 (10/22/2008 3:38 AM) |
heart affair wrote: What are you SAYING? I have no idea how to respond to you because I have no idea what I'm reading.
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Posts: 4708 (10/22/2008 3:39 AM) |
mEEEEchelle wrote: There's a dazzling thread on how men should bleed from their penises. I think we should move in there. |
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mEEEEchelle |
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Posts: 3398 (10/22/2008 3:40 AM) |
 Yes, lets!
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