So That New Jersey Guy Whose Son was Taken to Brazil
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pinkberry |
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Posts: 4939 (06/04/2009 10:31 AM) |
He is VERY attractive. I'm pretty positive he used to be a model.
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TYCP Sha |
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Posts: 96646 (06/04/2009 10:34 AM) |
Let's see him then.
And what a fucked up situation this is. |
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pinkberry |
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Posts: 4942 (06/04/2009 10:47 AM) |
This is him with his wife who took his son away.
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JayneOC |
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Posts: 104854 (06/04/2009 10:52 AM) JC Fanatic '01 '02 '04 '06 |
Why wouldn't a mother have the right to take her child with her?
But after she died, the son should have gone back to his dad. |
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JenFromJersey |
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Posts: 17053 (06/04/2009 10:57 AM) Most Loyal *NSYNC Fan '08 |
Jayne, the father thought that the mother was just going to visit her family, taking the son with him. I highly doubt he would have let her go if he knew she
was going to abruptly divorce him, get remarried and then get knocked up as soon as she got to Brazil!
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pinkberry |
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Posts: 4943 (06/04/2009 11:00 AM) |
What happened is that David dropped his wife and son off at the airport because they were going to visit the wife's family in Brazil for 2 weeks, but then
he got a call from her saying she wanted a divorce and that she and their son were staying in Brazil. Why should she have the right to do that? She even
admitted they had a great marriage and family and life in the U.S. then she just took the kid and left. It's the Brazilian courts who are not allowing
David to have any contact with his son. He has never signed anything giving up custody of Sean.
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Jenna1983 |
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Posts: 19960 (06/04/2009 11:18 AM) |
I think this happens all to often with couples where one is of non-US citizen or whatever. I have a friend whose husband wanted to take their child to his home
country this past fall when she was pregnant. Things were rocky between the couple and she was like, "Absolutely not."
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Moon and Star |
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Posts: 44605 (06/04/2009 11:20 AM) |
JayneOC wrote: It's called kidnapping. A mom can't just decide to move somewhere with a kid without the father knowing. Plus I saw the guy on the Today Show this morning and he said that he's not even legally divorced from his wife in the US. |
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JulieAnne20 |
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Posts: 34301 (06/04/2009 11:24 AM) Best Debater '09
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Moon and Star wrote: Exactly. |
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pinkberry |
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Posts: 4947 (06/04/2009 11:33 AM) |
Jenna1983 wrote:Good for her. These kind of situations make me think of the movie Not Without My Daughter. It's really scary and sad. |
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femme0622 |
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Posts: 1676 (06/04/2009 1:14 PM) |
Moon and Star wrote:That's not entirely accurate. Unless you have a court order stating that the father has to be informed/give approval of the child's whereabouts or those are stipulated in the divorce/legal separation/custody papers, you as the custodial parent (male or female), have the right to move wherever you want. This of course depends on your particular state of residence, but in my case (GA) would not force me to return if I took Sofia and moved to Virginia. As long as I wasn't denying her father reasonable access (and that's purely subjective), I can move wherever I like. Sadly, he'd still have to pay child support or risk being found in contempt, b/c that's how our custody agreement is written. I had to look at this when I was offered a job out of state (which I ultimately didn't take), but the laws are deliberately open like that to protect abused spouses/children from their abusers. A father would have to show just cause to have it stipulated that the mother can't leave the state without their child before a judge would agree to that. Also, that's part of why both parents now have to be present to apply for a child's passport unless they have a notarized form, to show both parents are consenting to the child leaving the US. *Oh, and it's only kidnapping when someone other than the mother takes the child. If a mother takes the child and there's no court order preventing her from doing so, she's not kidnapping. The dad on the other hand, different story. Fucked up, but that's Federal law. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 2483 (06/04/2009 1:31 PM) |
So sad
Unfortunately he probably won't get to be back with his son until he (the son) is of legal age (whatever that is in Brazil) and can make the
decision for himself to see his father. At that point though, he might not even want to be back with his dad because he will have spent his whole life in
Brazil with another man raising him as his father. I doubt he even remembers his real father at this point since he last saw him when he was only 3.
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Im not FAB |
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Posts: 431 (06/04/2009 5:00 PM) |
pinkberry wrote: He looks so beat up now. It really looks like this has worn him down. |
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jenji124 |
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Posts: 2269 (06/04/2009 6:30 PM) |
I've been following this story as well and it's so sad. I hope he can get his son back soon.
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proudhebrew23 |
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Posts: 26485 (06/04/2009 6:33 PM)
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I just don't get why we don't go all Elian Gonzalez raid on these people. I mean, I *do* get why, but it's just...ugh. It's just so simple to
me. The boy belongs with his father, cased closed. I don't get why these people think they have the right to keep him from his biological parent.
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mossumpossum |
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Posts: 250 (06/04/2009 6:56 PM) |
Isn't the step dad and that whole family pretty high up in politics in Brazil too? Or the step dad or step grandfather are high powered attorneys? I
can't remember exactly but there's something like that that they're using to find loop holes and using their connections to keep him there.
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ru4serious |
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Posts: 933 (06/04/2009 7:09 PM) |
I really thought this was going to work out for him. If anything I hope his son knows he loves him because this man has been working damn hard to get to
him. He's a good one because I'd have been kidnapped him back. It's not right but damn
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orangepeel19 |
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Posts: 11271 (06/04/2009 7:11 PM) Friendliest JJBer '09
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Ooo I'm not sure about that.
The child is/was an American citizen right? Born here? Because you can't just hold an American citizen in Brazil and say "No we're not giving him back. He's staying with his non-relatives." It's mind boggling. If the only blood he has is in the States, then he should be in the States especially when that blood has the title of DAD. |
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mntwinsfan05 |
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Posts: 3279 (06/04/2009 7:13 PM) |
orangepeel19 wrote: Yes. the child was born in the US. |
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orangepeel19 |
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Posts: 11273 (06/04/2009 7:14 PM) Friendliest JJBer '09
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Aw damn I was hoping he wasn't
No wonder it's so complicated.
eta - that was to Lideem |
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Unfortunately he probably won't get to be back with his son until he (the son) is of legal age (whatever that is in Brazil) and can make the
decision for himself to see his father. At that point though, he might not even want to be back with his dad because he will have spent his whole life in
Brazil with another man raising him as his father. I doubt he even remembers his real father at this point since he last saw him when he was only 3.
No wonder it's so complicated.
