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Posts: 8173 (08/04/2009 10:45 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote: People wouldn't do it if they didn't want to. I think people with this mindset tend to take the feminist approach with everything way too far. |
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Posts: 2344 (08/04/2009 11:00 AM) |
babydtc23 wrote: If people are okay with being given away like a piece of property and throwing away part of their identity, fine. I just said I would never do it. I do wish women would take the time to think about where these traditions come from and what value they actually have, but when I start the dialogue I'm a mean radical feminist and I take things "too far." |
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anniesahn |
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Posts: 1545 (08/04/2009 11:12 AM) |
I think most babies look like creepy aliens straight out the coochie (for several months). I feel really bad about it too, but I can't bring myself to say
a fake compliment about newborns to save my life. I'm hoping if I ever have my own baby, this will become a non issue.
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Posts: 861 (08/04/2009 11:20 AM) |
POProcks08 wrote:I understand where you're coming from. If I get married though, I will change my name. 1.I want us all to have the same name as a family. And 2. I hate my last name.  What the eff? (font)
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Posts: 11569 (08/04/2009 11:23 AM) |
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Posts: 31698 (08/04/2009 11:29 AM) |
TYCP Sha wrote:seriously  if you want WET, go watch CMT. it caters to a
predominantly white genre of music, just as BET does.
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magnoliam |
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Posts: 4867 (08/04/2009 11:34 AM) |
POProcks08 wrote: On this issue, I think the freedom to choose one way or another is more empowering than condemning those who do. While you may think that by taking a last name of the husband is "being given away like a piece of property and throwing away part of their identity" it is certainly not the mind set of all who do choose to take the last name of their spouse, and by projecting it as such you are hurting women's movements far more in my opinion. |
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Posts: 4868 (08/04/2009 11:35 AM) |
forever121young wrote: yes thank you! |
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Lancelina |
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Posts: 4189 (08/04/2009 11:37 AM) |
The war in iraq/afghanistan is based on racism and is completely unnecessary and keeps taking innocent lives and it's all for oil.
Abortion should be legal everywhere, it's not your choice what I want to do with my body. I hate when races/nationalities live up to their stereotype and make all of them look dumb, this includes my own as well. I hate when a person moves to another country and doesn't even bother to learn the language or culture and also when they make babies in the same country and raise them with their own language, uughh. I do not like people who have kids too young, aka like 16 - 18. Stupid. Jesus prob never existed as well as I don't think there probably isn't a god but probably something of higher power. That's all 
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Posts: 2740 (08/04/2009 11:40 AM) |
The last migration wrote:I agree with all of those. |
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Lancelina |
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Posts: 4190 (08/04/2009 11:40 AM) |
Oh also, I don't like people who are obese and go to McDonalds or other fast food places and gets a plus menu and shit, they should do something about it
or stop complaining about it.
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Lauriestar |
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Posts: 16663 (08/04/2009 11:40 AM) JJB Angel '09
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I think women who don't consider themselves feminists clearly do not understand what feminism is and what it stands for. I like this quote:
"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." -Rebecca West |
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Lancelina |
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Posts: 4191 (08/04/2009 11:42 AM) |
And, Twilight is the most embarrassing and terrible shit to hit our planet and it needs to go away.
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babydtc23 |
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Posts: 8174 (08/04/2009 11:44 AM) |
POProcks08 wrote: I wish you would open your mind up and realize that not all women look at it the way you do and it has absolutely nothing to do with my identity being given up. I will feel just as proud to have my BF's last name as he would for me to have it. My identity is a hell of alot more than a last name. I don't care where the tradition orignated from as I have my own set meaning in doing so. You make look at taking a man's last name as throwing away your identity, however I as well as many women do not. I also hold someone's actions heavily in how I judge them and surely my BF is aware he doesn't become the owner of me once I take his name, otherwise I wouldn't be with him in the first place. 
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Posts: 2074 (08/04/2009 11:44 AM) |
Lancelina wrote: 
I hate when races/nationalities live up to their stereotype and make all of them look dumb, this includes my own as well. 
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Posts: 8175 (08/04/2009 11:49 AM) |
Lauriestar wrote: Quoting someone else doesn't prove your point. It proves theirs. Disagreeing with someone's very generalized opinion of what happens to you once you take your husband's last name doesn't equate to not knowing the definition of feminism, but when you take your own definition of something and generally apply it to all women in a negative way, it becomes an extreme point of view that is narrow minded. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 3565 (08/04/2009 11:50 AM) |
Lauriestar wrote:I like that. Very true. I think it's ridiculous to be called a feminist just because a woman doesn't want to change her name. The tradition is based on being sold as a piece of property, why would I want to continue that tradition? And yes, women do have the choice to take a man's name or not, but so many do, and so many never even think twice about it. If they want to, then that's their prerogative, but I think it's only setting women back and honoring a timeless tradition based on horrible reasoning's. If women/men want everyone to have the same name, then why don't more men take the woman's last name? Why don't more people combine names? It's suppose to be a union of TWO people, two history's and two last names...not one. |
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Posts: 2120 (08/04/2009 11:51 AM) |
I breastfed my daughter for over a year, but when I see breastfeeding in public, it makes me uncomfortable.
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babydtc23 |
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Posts: 8176 (08/04/2009 11:52 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote: Correction DTS-no one said it was feminist to not want to take your husband's last name. Don't twist what I said, because I was calling it extreme feminism to accuse those who choose to take the last name of their husband, of losing their identity and becoming pieces of property. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 3566 (08/04/2009 11:56 AM) |
No.
"Taking your husband's last name is part of an awful tradition and I would never do it." To which you said, "People wouldn't do it if they didn't want to. I think people with this mindset tend to take the feminist approach with everything way too far." You said people are taking feminism "way too far" because they believe taking their husband's last name is an awful tradition. If YOU want to change your last name, then that's fine. But don't tell me or others who think it's an awful tradition, that they are taking things too far and are being "feminists."
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08/04/2009 11:59 AM.
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