*hugs*
I'm in Tears over this Unemployment Extension Vote *UPDATE*
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 CrunkCrazy4NSync |
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Posts: 166858 (10/29/2009 2:37 PM)
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raratwentyfour |
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Posts: 4291 (10/29/2009 11:13 PM) |
CrunkCrazy4NSync wrote:Thanks, hon! 
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curlysgirl98 |
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Posts: 6036 (10/29/2009 11:28 PM) |
I have been unemployed since the end of JUne and I have literally applied for anything from retail/restaurants to jobs in my actual field and have gotten a
handful of interviews all of which they have taken someone more qualified. The funny thing is I don't even get call backs from retail jobs and I have a BA
and retail experience. The job market is just so filled right now it's hard to get anything.
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dogfoot75 |
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Posts: 1095 (10/29/2009 11:39 PM) |
My brother's been unemployed since he graduated last December and lost his internship (obviously since he wasn't a student). Brand new MBA. Good
grades. Good internships. Etc.
He hasn't even had an offer. He's had, I think, two interviews, though it might have only been one. It's crazy. Though unemployment has to come to an end at some point. I mean, we can't just keep giving people money. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 5977 (10/29/2009 11:42 PM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote:Nobody? Ok then. |
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lilnsyncmami |
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Posts: 5748 (10/30/2009 12:11 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote:Good question. I'll answer it. For as long as it takes for the government to find that money they threw away right before Obama was inaugurated into office or ooo for as long as it takes for health care to be free...that will be a lonnnnmg time. Or wait, it gets better, for as long as it takes for the government to make college free because education should be one of the most important aspects of any striving society. Or hmmm...for as long as Black men get fair trials and true justice compared to their White counterparts. Or ...well you get the point. It was a good question but I just had to vent real quick. Hope you understand. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 5981 (10/30/2009 12:32 AM) |
lilnsyncmami wrote:I understand your venting, but at the same time, that type of unrealistic thought process is just that...unrealistic. So ok, lets just support everyone forever because well...that's just what we should do! And I'm by no means saying there's an easy answer. It's obviously very complicated. But at the same time, unemployment can't be extended forever. And also, I love how you conveniently added in "the money BEFORE Obama was inaugurated." In my opinion, Obama has already wasted away billions of dollars, just as the president before him did. Obama's stimulus package was a huge waste of money in tons of areas and is still leaving millions of Americans struggling. A lot of that money went to bail out greedy companies, while leaving uemployment to run out for millions of Americans.
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raratwentyfour |
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Posts: 4300 (10/30/2009 12:33 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote: There's no easy answers. Companies are not hired or laying off left and right. Those who are looking are having trouble because their are so many look for jobs right now and so little jobs out there. And there's the need to stimulate the economy so companies don't go under. But how can we put money out there that we don't have because can't find a job to get the money we need to spend on those things? We can't let people and families go homeless and hungry, can we? I have no clue how to turn all this around. And yes, I know we can't be on unemployement forever. I'm currently working a p-time job and making about 20% of my former salary. But I was so happy to get a job and I wasn't going to turn it down. I'm doing writing jobs with a goal to find a p/t or fulltime writing gig. I have cut off the cable we rarely eat out unless it's $1 menu, we moved to a cheaper apartment, we let go of our parking space (a must in our neighborhood where there is no parking). I don't buy luxuries or wants. Everything goes to bills and the basic needs of my daughter. I'm not a freeloader I just want a damn chance. |
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lilnsyncmami |
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Posts: 5749 (10/30/2009 12:44 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote:You're probably right. They, those in government (which includes are current president lol) , all waste money like crazy and things don't ever seem to change greatly in government. There's always a "process" with everything. So yeah, I know unemployment can't extend forever literally. I was being snarky. However, this unemployment problem is out of control and so an extension should be put into place IMO but for how long? That is a tough question. I don't have a budget in front of me to really figure that out so unfortunately, I can't really answer your question in realistic terms to be honest with you. It's such a complex issue. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 5985 (10/30/2009 12:56 AM) |
lilnsyncmami wrote:Sorry, didn't mean to come off bitchy lol...but I just hate how so many people on this board act as though Obama is a god send in everything he does. I feel a lot of people (especially on here) are not realistic about him or his actions. They still put in in this fantasy bubble of he can do no wrong. And just because I say that doesn't mean I'm "GO BUSH!" People always confuse my (and other people's) criticism of Obama (and other presidents) as meaning we MUST be for Bush then. I definitely agree with what you said...they all waste money like crazy and it's a shame. And for people being so pro-Obama, I just wish people would be more critical and not see everything as frosted glass. I think he has fucked up majorly so far with a big portion of his stimulus package. Yes, he did inherit a lot/all of the problems, but that doesn't mean that in turn all of his actions are automatically right and correct. Like I said above, a lot of his bail out money went to big greedy companies, while leaving millions of Americans with their unemployment running out. But back on topic. Obviously my question wasn't a serious one, because there obviously is no right answer. And it sucks. It does suck to see hard working honest people struggling and suffering. I don't know what the right answer is...I don't think anyone does, not even the government. I do know that we can't extend unemployment forever though, but obviously, in turn, other things need to be done/fixed. |
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NickelodeonSucksLoL |
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Posts: 5703 (10/30/2009 2:37 AM) |
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: 1. How long do you think it takes to pay off a car? 1 month? 1 year? Answer: Try 5-6 years on average. 5 years ago the economy was fine and job wages were somewhat sufficient. Also no matter how long you've been paying on your car, in most cases if you miss 3 consecutive payments, the repo man will visit you. 2. How long do you think it takes for your credit score to turn? Answer: Your credit can go from 800 to 300 in 90 days if say 2 credit card payments are late 60 days and if you have a repossession on your credit history. And yes, a credit score of 300 qualifies as not having viable credit. 3. You should try to fully understand the topics you voice your opinions on before you voice your opinion because yeah, you definitely sound drunk. 4. America as a whole saves a negative amount of money, so chances are you, yourself might also be guilty of living outside your means. 5. I'm sure "whining ass people" are tired of self-righteous people who think they know everything but don't know even enough to pass a multiple choice test as well.
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KiRkY GiRlY |
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Posts: 22567 (10/30/2009 5:29 AM) |
I feel bad for all of the people who are actually trying to get a job. I don't feel bad for those who use unemployment as a vacation (my brother &
sister). The system needs to weed these people out. I know for a fact that my sister has not put 1 application out and she has been unemployed since May.
She made more then me in the summer! |
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girl7here |
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Posts: 6558 (10/30/2009 6:17 AM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote:*eyeroll* I was hoping noone would reply to your original question. I knew this would digress from the original point of the awesome post by OP. Everytime a topic is about getting something done, people like you turn the conversation into a President Obama bash. This is one of the main reason we are stangnant here in America. Its easier to lay blame on the persons trying fix the huge mess that was left by the last President and his PARTY, than to call out the non effort by the same party that fucked up our Country. Main reason I hate the Political discourse in this country at the moment. Keep bashing the ones trying to get things done. OP thanks for the post, I already had started writing these disgusting Congressmen in regard to this and other things. BY now they are use to my emails phone calls and letters but its the only way to keep letting them know that while Faux news and the disgusting right wing of their party continues to masturbate their non policy, non work efforts, majority of America are watching and don't like what they see. I definitely feel sad everytime I see another bill that is supposed to help us the American people, being bashed and then the NO from the Republicans. I wish they would GTFO and stop being paid to do nothing. |
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jcsgurlalways |
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Posts: 1438 (10/30/2009 7:34 AM) |
I was in college in Dec of 07 and found a great job with a factory here in town that paid REALLY well. I quit school and went to work to pay off all my debt,
in the process my mom who lived with me died and I had to move. I lost my job just this past Feb 09 when the factory closed the doors and sent our jobs to
Brazil. Thats where most of our equipment was shipped to. I didnt ask to lose my job, I'd rather be working. But NOTHING is available around here, infact 2
more plants have closed putting even more people out of work. I am currently going to school for Medical Office Technology (since there are no jobs around here
and to keep my unemployment ) and without my unemployment I would lose everything. I barely get by, I dont qualify for anything from DHS. So next month I have
to give up my cobra in order to have money to buy food. These idiots in government should have to live for 6 months on 1500$ a month unemployment. See how far
they can stretch it.
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 5988 (10/30/2009 7:57 AM) |
girl7here wrote:And LOL at you for 1. Obviously not reading what I wrote, and 2. Only placing blame on one party. This situation that we are in is because of BOTH parties over many many years (starting with Carter). I am by no means saying the Bush administration is blameless. They had a lot to do with this, but I think it's so ignorant and uninformed to sit there and place blame on one party...which is what a lot of people in this country do. People are so obsessed with being "republican" or "democrat" and bashing the other side. Fact of the matter, both parties have fucked up throughout the years to put us in this situation. And no, I don't think what Obama is doing is right. I'm sorry I don't praise everything he does like so many people do. He used our money to bail out greedy corporations, while leaving millions of Americans with their unemployment running out. That's not "bashing," that's being realistic about the situation just as I am realistic about the situation that Bush fucked this all up too. |
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 chocolate covered raisins |
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Posts: 32094 (10/30/2009 8:05 AM) Chris Fanatic '03 |
It's lame to drink and then go on JJB to talk about it.
On that note I think as long as people are truly looking for work, keeping up with their applications they should be allowed to continue to get unemployment. It's the ones who just sit on their ass doing nothing that should be cut off asap. Maybe if they cut those losers out there would be more funds for people who actually need it. And I don't understand how some of you can say it's not that bad. What world are you living in? Things have been going downhill for about 2, 3 years now. Businesses are shutting down leaving more and more people unemployed. And it's not like there is funds to just build new buildings to hire more people. And the low end jobs like fast food and retail get filled so fast it's pretty much a waste of time to even stop there. Then there's the students, who spend between 2-8 years...some even more getting a higher education just to find out that if you don't already have 5 years of work experience, you're screwed. Only these people have regular bills, as well as student loans to pay back. There goes their credit! Not everyone has bad credit because they live outside their means. Some people are just having a harder time now than others. It's insensitive to automatically assume shit when you don't even understand what is going on with the economy.
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jcsgurlalways |
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Posts: 1439 (10/30/2009 8:25 AM) |
chocolate covered raisins wrote: Well said. |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 5990 (10/30/2009 8:26 AM) |
chocolate covered raisins wrote:I guess you don't understand how it works. Those people who are sitting on their asses are just lying about the applications they are turning in. It's not like they are handing out unemployment checks to people they know are honestly not looking for work. The people lie about it. Unless they give everyone a lie detector test, there's no way to weed them out. |
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chocolate covered raisins |
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Posts: 32098 (10/30/2009 8:31 AM) Chris Fanatic '03 |
They can hire more workers (anyone who has been on unemployment knows that they do not have enough staff...otherwise you would be able to get ahold of their
asses on the phone) and hire people to call these buisnesses and confirm that the apps were turned in.
If the food stamp office can take time to call peoples past employers to unsure they no longer work there, I think these assholes at UE can call to ensure an app was turned in. They can't do that though because that would...gasp...create more jobs! |
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twilightschild |
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Posts: 20087 (10/30/2009 9:35 AM) |
And also, I love how you conveniently added in "the money BEFORE Obama was inaugurated." In my opinion, Obama has already wasted away billions of dollars, just as the president before him did. Obama's stimulus package was a huge waste of money in tons of areas and is still leaving millions of Americans struggling. A lot of that money went to bail out greedy companies, while leaving uemployment to run out for millions of Americans.In the real world, we just fonud out this week that the stimulus bill saved a million jobs (due to both funds and tax cuts). And helped prop up the big banks so the economy wouldn't go into a death spiral (and no, I wasn't particularly happy about giving money to the assholes who made this mess in the first place). As far as I've read 12% of the 787 billion dollar stimulus package has been spent. I'm sure the money spent isn't considered a waste by the people who still have their jobs. An initial extention of unemployment funds for each state was part of the stimulus package - remember John Cornyn (R-TX), Bobby Jindal (R-LA) and Sarah Palin (R-AK) trying to turn the money down? So no, Obama didn't leave "unemployment to run out for millions of Americans". |
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