Mistress Darcy wrote:I don't know if you're being serious, but churches are not non profit lol. They may claim they are, but like I said...especially churches like the catholic church, the mormon church, and a lot of evangelical churches. They are FAR from non profit.
Churches are not non-profit and tithes have been around forever and ever.
Why don't churches pay taxes?
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Posts: 6159 (11/04/2009 7:02 PM) |
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ipodconga |
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Posts: 15378 (11/04/2009 7:02 PM) |
Sleepn wrote:I'm with Melissa Etheridge. If I don't have the same rights under the state constitution as everyone else in America because I'm gay, if I'm not a full citizen, why do I have to pay taxes? I'm tired of reading/talking about this, though - I need a vacation from the issue. |
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 thegoat121886 |
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Mistress Darcy wrote: tithing in the biblical sense meant that farmers would set aside 10% of their harvest. Tithing as a form of monetary compensation did not come about until the 1800s when churches needed a way to make up for the money they were losing without the protection of the state. |
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Lukadeem |
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Posts: 1552 (11/04/2009 7:02 PM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote:So how do they generate their income? |
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blairboy |
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Posts: 36039 (11/04/2009 7:03 PM)
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I personally feel they should pay taxes cause as the SO said, they LOVE to stick their nose where it's not wanted/needed. Would teach them a lesson to fuck
off.
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Mistress Darcy |
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Posts: 12342 (11/04/2009 7:04 PM) |
DoesThatSparkle wrote: |
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 6160 (11/04/2009 7:05 PM) |
Sleepn wrote:Your argument is null and void because that's great if catholic families pay out the ass for public school students' but so do other parents who send their kids to a non-religious private school. I specifically said the catholic church because they are one of the most wealthy. So it's pretty obvious why I pin pointed them. I feel the same about all churches, though. |
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blairboy |
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Posts: 36040 (11/04/2009 7:06 PM)
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ipodconga wrote: I agree with you on this. Hey we're not equal, fuck them. |
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Mistress Darcy |
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Posts: 12343 (11/04/2009 7:07 PM) |
thegoat121886 wrote:Tithes meant 10% or whatever of all production of the year. For farmers, that meant harvest. For other people, that might have meant money or land or wood or etc. |
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ipodconga |
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Posts: 15379 (11/04/2009 7:09 PM) |
I wonder what will come of this? Published in March.
Is Maine's Diocese violating tax laws?05.22.2009 10:45am EDT (Augusta, Maine) A gay rights advocacy group claims that the Roman Catholic Diocese of Maine is violating tax rules by helping a referendum campaign that would repeal the state's new same-sex marriage law. The Empowering Spirits Foundation said its challenge was filed at an Internal Revenue Service office in Dallas. The San Diego-based group said the diocese is engaging in political activity by collecting signatures for the referendum, violating IRS rules applying to nonprofits.The ballot question would overturn Maine's gay marriage law. Gay marriage foes need the signatures of at least 55,087 registered voters to get the question on the ballot. The petitioners have until three months after the Legislature adjourns, which is expected to happen in mid-June, to collect the signatures. IRS policy allows the diocese to participate in the campaign and help collect signatures, said Marc Mutty, public affairs director for the diocese. He rejected the IRS challenge as a "bogus attempt to sidetrack the campaign." Leonard Cole, a Portland attorney who specializes in tax and nonprofit issues, suggested that the church's involvement could put it at odds with IRS rules that restrict lobbying by tax-exempt nonprofits. "It's hard for me to imagine how you seek someone's signature on a petition without it arguably at least being an attempt to influence their vote once the measure was on the ballot," Cole said. Meanwhile, about a dozen gay-marriage supporters gathered in a park across the street from Maine's Capitol to thank the Legislature for enacting the bill and Gov. John Baldacci for signing it earlier this month. The gathering also marked the start of the supporters' campaign to defeat the referendum. One of the participants, Carla Hopkins of Mount Vernon, said she was not discouraged that a same-sex marriage bill in New Hampshire has been set back by a House vote. Efforts are under way to negotiate a compromise acceptable to Gov. John Lynch. "We're riding high on what's happening here in Maine," said Hopkins, adding that she hopes to see similar laws passed throughout New England. Four other states, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts and Vermont, allow gay marriage. |
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blairboy |
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Posts: 36041 (11/04/2009 7:09 PM)
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Churches are VERY fucking smiley when it comes to that shit. Look at the Mormon Church and it pisses me off that they get away that bs.
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DoesThatSparkle |
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Posts: 6161 (11/04/2009 7:11 PM) |
Mistress Darcy wrote:Oops, my bad. Can't read. |
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Posts: 7837 (11/04/2009 7:33 PM) |
I'm in this a lot so...
It depends on the state I believe, but where I live once you get approved as a church and get your papers right and you become tax exempt (which is quite a labor in itself) then you don't have to pay until you make a certain amount. This is because the church is there for the community and the money that goes in is there for said community and services to that community. Believe me most everyday churches wouldn't have anything to give anyway because churches laying around in money is a big misconception. Larger more established churches however do have other rules and that's a different story. |
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StellaXOXOXO |
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Posts: 6892 (11/04/2009 7:44 PM) |
Churches in NYC have cafes. Do they have to pay taxes on their profits?
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rokhas1yummybumbum |
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Posts: 14810 (11/04/2009 7:52 PM) |
blairboy wrote: Why should anyone pay taxes? Especially when certain members of our government don't have to. |
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TR2119 |
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Posts: 11753 (11/04/2009 8:17 PM) |
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