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Posts: 8234 (11/20/2009 11:13 AM) |
Samantha James wrote:Go sit in the corner and eat your Papa Johns. 
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Alex the Goob |
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Posts: 54472 (11/20/2009 11:21 AM) |
ohphelia wrote: Poor kid? The only poor kid here is the 15-year-old's victim. Remember, the 3-year-old little girl he molested? |
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Posts: 5254 (11/20/2009 11:26 AM) |
He is evil.. |
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AngelPrincess81 |
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Posts: 4160 (11/20/2009 11:27 AM) |
Poor kid? The only poor kid here is the 15-year-old's victim. Remember, the 3-year-old little girl he molested? Exactly...the more I think about this story...the less sympathy I feel for the kid. Had he been younger, say 10-ish and the little girl closer to his age (say 8 ), it's still fucked up, but sometimes kids play around and don't really know what's going on. This boy was old enough to know better...and the little girl was THREE. What the hell do you want with a three year old?! |
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proudhebrew23 |
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Posts: 27961 (11/20/2009 11:32 AM)
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I find it insane that any of you think a teenager deserved to be killed. If he did do what his parents accused him of, then yeah...that's obviously very
wrong and would have needed to be dealt with accordingly. But people are actually okay with the kid being executed for that? SERIOUSLY?
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Sweetie1384 |
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Posts: 16022 (11/20/2009 11:35 AM) |
proudhebrew23 wrote: Those people who think its okay are a little messed up. I am sorry 15 in my eyes is still a child himself. Most of these cases though, you end up finding out the abuser was sexually abused himself OR he had mental problems. Seriously. But I do not think killing the 15 year was the right decision, I think it was wrong. And I hope the father pays. |
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AngelPrincess81 |
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Posts: 4163 (11/20/2009 11:36 AM) |
Yes.
I don't get how most people would agree that if it were a grown man raping/assaulting a grown woman. Or a grown man raping/molesting a 16 year old girl, that he deserves death...but not this...I don't see a difference. This was practically a baby for God's sake. And I'm sorry, I don't see much difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old and a 21 year old. When is it fair to call the line at anything? It's hard to tell, but I think that, since it's not being reported that he was mentally incapable of understanding, he had to know what he was doing was wrong. I'm not saying I would have killed him...just that I don't think the dad was evil for doing so...
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11/20/2009 11:39 AM.
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Sweetie1384 |
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Posts: 16023 (11/20/2009 11:38 AM) |
Just imagine hearing him plead to his father, please don't kill me daddy. That right there gives me chills and that makes me sad
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orodwen |
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Posts: 22185 (11/20/2009 11:42 AM) |
The poor girl gets the worst of this, she is going to blame herself forever. Not only did she get molested, her brother gets killed, and her dad will most likely spend the rest of his life in jail. None of it is her fault, but she will blame herself any ways.I sadly fear this will be the case... 
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Posts: 1112 (11/20/2009 11:42 AM) |
This whole story just makes me sad and infuriated all at the same time. What a damn shame. There are no winners here.
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TealaB |
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Posts: 2207 (11/20/2009 11:43 AM) |
I guess its just the law student in me, but I can't help thinking about how the 15 year old CHILD will never get a fair trial for his crimes. Yes, he may
have done something unforgivable that should be punished, but the surrounding information just sounds SO sketchy. Dad just took the law into his own hands, and
killed him. Now the dad will have a full trial, complete with defences of his emotional state at the time of the murder, etc.
So, supposedly touching this child gets you humiliating and execution style death by your own father, and shooting your own child at a point blank range will likely result in a MUCH less severe punishment. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm downplaying the serious nature of child molestation, because i'm certainly not trying to. |
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proudhebrew23 |
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Posts: 27962 (11/20/2009 11:44 AM)
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Exactly. The boy obviously hadn't been growing up in the most stable environment, if his father's actions are any indication. The kid was obviously
troubled. He needed help, not gunshot to his head.
If you don't think a father is evil for murdering his child (and yes, he was a child), then something is seriously wrong with you. And I don't feel bad about saying that! The fact that you can't see the difference between a 15, 18, or 21 year old tells me that you know absolutely nothing about human development. Yes, a 15 year old knows right from wrong, but it doesn't mean his brain is at all developed in the way that a 25 year old's brain is. Whether you want to believe it or not, science will tell you that there is a HUGE difference in how people are able to make logical decisions at each stage of life. Doesn't make what he may have done acceptable at all, but it certainly does not make a kid deserving of murder. |
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Posts: 6548 (11/20/2009 11:49 AM) |
proudhebrew23 wrote:THANK YOU, some of ya'll need to take up child/adolescent psych before you talk about nonsense you no NOTHING about. Please, all of the people who have absolutely no compassion for this young boy's life being taken, don't procreate. |
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Sweetie1384 |
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Posts: 16024 (11/20/2009 11:54 AM) |
proudhebrew23 wrote: Thank you! You hit it right on the head! From what I hear the Father also had other felonies in his life.. hmm.. That kid probably had an unstable environment most of his life. I am sorry but I feel the father was VERY WRONG in this. |
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AngelPrincess81 |
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Posts: 4164 (11/20/2009 11:58 AM) |
So are you implying that an immature 21 year old is to be held more responsible than a 15 year old that has the same level of comprehension and understanding?
That's bull.
And, until you have been in the same situation, as some people have stated in here already, and as my family has been through more than once (without the killing part obviously) then don't speak as if you know how you would feel or what you would do. And don't talk down to me because I don't agree with you, because I didn't do so to any of you. I don't give a shit how many books you read or who's school you go to...NOTHING in the world can prepare you for moments of rage such as this. Nothing. And people asking us to imagine him pleading for his life and feel compassion. Try imagining him in the act of what he was doing to that BABY. That, you'll find is a lot more disturbing... |
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MandsLB8 |
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Posts: 6302 (11/20/2009 11:58 AM) |
So.. tell me if I'm wrong.
The brother and the sister have the same dad correct? The father shot the son because he touched his sisters vagina inappropriately, correct? I may be in the minority here, but that boy did not deserve to die. He obviously wasn't right in he head, and raised wrong if he got any pleasure out of touching his damn sister.. His father should have put him in a hospital.. and counseling. Not shot him in the back of the head. How is what the father did any different than what the boy did? He shot and KILLED his own child. |
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proudhebrew23 |
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Posts: 27963 (11/20/2009 12:06 PM)
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AngelPrincess81 wrote:You obviously don't have a high level of comprehension and understanding if that's what you got from my reply. My exact point is that, immature or not, a 21 year old and a 15 year old do NOT have the same level of comprehension and understanding. They are at two totally different stages of brain development. That difference is exactly why a 21 year old can legally drive, drink, go to war, and vote, and a 15 year old can do none of the above. If you can't understand that, then I'll save myself this precious time I could be using by instead holding a conversation with a brick wall. Nobody is implying that the kid should not have been held responsible for his actions. But that is for the law to decide...not an insane man with a gun. |
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MandsLB8 |
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Posts: 6303 (11/20/2009 12:06 PM) |
Wow. I just read through this whole post and I'm disgusted with some of you. I can't believe that there are some people on here saying that the boy
deserved to die.. and none the less, be killed by his own father.
This world is really disturbing- especially when people try to justify mindless acts of horror and violence. |
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Posts: 6304 (11/20/2009 12:06 PM) |
DP but ETA: If my son was touching my daughter/his sister that way.. I'd put a bullet in my head for not raising my kids right. |
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Posts: 15858 (11/20/2009 12:09 PM) |
This is clearly not a black and white situation. It's pretty fucked up all around.
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