I WISH I was surprised by the amount of stupidity in this post.
Dad Shoots Pedophile Son Execution Style
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 joey is a teapot |
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Posts: 69488 (11/20/2009 1:05 PM) Joey Fanatic '06
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AngelPrincess81 |
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Posts: 4170 (11/20/2009 1:09 PM) |
I never insulted your grandmother. If her children are molesting other children, hypothetically, I'm gonna go ahead (as a mother) and say she's responsible for their actions. And as a mother, you should completely understand that everything your children will do in their lives is not the direct reflection of what you have instilled in them. If that were the case, we may as well blame the parents of every addict, murderer and prostitute in the world. That's stupid, at some point people become able to make their own decisions, ones that don't always have anything whatsoever to do with how they were raised. I read that you said the dad was wrong.. but the fact that you can justify his actions are sickening. It's not jumping on a bandwagon, it's common sense. yeah...I wasn't justifying his actions. I said that I personally could understand, because having lived through a situation like that, I've seen people act in ways that they normally wouldn't because of rage. I can understand that he was pissed/hurt/confused, and that I could see why he would be driven to do such a thing. How is that in any way saying that, "Oh, yeah, he totally should have done it" because of this? I said you need to seek out MORE professional help because you do. I'm not personally attacking you, I'm making logical, reasonable and educated opinions based on reading ALL of your posts in here. But it's not really logical...you don't know me, and you didn't even really read my posts correctly. What you've repeatedly written that you thought I said wasn't really what i said or meant at all...so those "educated opinions" are a little skewed... I feel really sorry for you that you're sitting here arguing with 20 people about why you're "opinions" on this subject aren't completely off kilter and the fact that you're in denial that your past may have something to do with your "opinions". I'm not "arguing" with anybody...I'm trying to understand why a difference in opinion or just a different point of view can infuriate so many people. And, I've never denied anything about my past being an influence on how I'm looking at this situation. I'll be the first to admit that what's happened to me influences how I feel pretty much 100% 
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gscaleta |
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Posts: 744 (11/20/2009 1:19 PM) |
This is a very said event and the fact that people are bickering about it is pretty sickening.
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Olivia725 |
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Posts: 2485 (11/20/2009 1:30 PM) |
At first I was thinking that the kid deserved to get his ass kicked, not shot, but a good ass beating. Then I started thinking that getting beat for something
like that could turn him into an angry sexual predator and maybe the next time or the next victim, it may not be just touching. Not that touching is ok. I am
talking about acts of violence towards the vitim.
I can understand that the father acted in anger, I probably would have felt the same way, but I have a thing in my head called a brain. It tells me right from wrong. I think there are some mental issues with the dad and the kid.
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11/20/2009 1:32 PM.
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AngelPrincess81 |
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Posts: 4172 (11/20/2009 1:39 PM) |
I can understand that the father acted in anger, I probably would have felt the same way, but I have a thing in my head called a brain. It tells me right from wrong. And that's all I was trying to say
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insomniachollie |
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Posts: 42007 (11/20/2009 3:21 PM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
A 15 year old boy who not only does that but confesses to it of his own free will without any other compulsion or pressure on him to do so? I'd bet good
money something else was going on there.
Sadly, his father has eliminated the possibility of finding out what and possibly being able to help the kid. What he did was abhorrent, but he's a kid and you cannot treat a kid as an adult. Though even an adult shouldn't be shot down like that instead of tried through proper process and law. I can understand how apoplectic with rage the father must have been, but there is zero excuse for murder. We all get angry, but we know right from wrong. We know that it's not for us to drive over to the offender's house to execute them. Oh, somebody on the first page was asking about premeditation and insanity pleas? It varies from place to place depending on specific laws so this definitely isn't a 'fits all' answer, but premeditation doesn't necessarily negate an insanity defence; usually that depends on the nature and duration of the alleged psychological episode. What it usually does negate is a provocation defence (though I don't know if you guys use the 'provocation' term like we do or something else?). The logic for that is that the defence is supposed to revolve around the provocation making you suddenly lose control of your better judgment, almost like momentary madness, and doing something you'd never normally do - whereas obviously if you were making plans beforehand, then it's neither sudden nor something you wouldn't otherwise contemplate doing |
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chocolate covered raisins |
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Posts: 32361 (11/20/2009 3:39 PM) Chris Fanatic '03 |
GettinHotWithJC wrote: This is how I feel. I hate to say it, but if he was starting inappropriate behavior at 15, lord knows how bad he would have been at 30. |
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Samantha James |
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Posts: 18199 (11/20/2009 3:49 PM) |
oliverbandit wrote:Go find some new material. I don't understand saying some shit that's been said 100 times before like it's supposed to mean something. Sit the fuck down and write a rough draft. |
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Posts: 2883 (11/20/2009 8:57 PM) |
Alex the Goob wrote: WTF? What the boy allegedly did is horrible, but he's a child. Children who molest usually have been molested themselves. The last thing he saw before he died was his father shooting him.  No one deserves that, let alone a child. Yes, the little girl is a victim, but can you really blame me for feeling bad for
a 15-year old boy who was probably molested, then molested his sister and felt guilty enough to confess to it, then was shot by his father? The little girl is
a victim too but her life was not ended by her father.
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oliverbandit |
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Posts: 8236 (11/20/2009 9:08 PM) |
Samantha James wrote:I bet you had to put the pizza down to write that. Go lick your fat fingers. 
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insomniachollie |
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Posts: 42029 (11/20/2009 9:11 PM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
oliverbandit wrote:I bet you thought that response was oh so very witty and clever. |
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oliverbandit |
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Posts: 8238 (11/20/2009 9:12 PM) |
Actually I did. It was much better than when she told me to go kill myself. Don't you think?
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Samantha James |
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Posts: 18209 (11/20/2009 9:15 PM) |
oliverbandit wrote:Oh, no. You called me fat. I'm so sad and devastated now.  I feel so bad about myself now that you said that. 
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insomniachollie |
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Posts: 42030 (11/20/2009 9:15 PM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
No. 'Kill yourself' is unoriginal, but yours was just seriously weak.
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oliverbandit |
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Posts: 8240 (11/20/2009 9:16 PM) |
insomniachollie wrote:To each her own. I loved it. 
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insomniachollie |
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Posts: 42031 (11/20/2009 9:17 PM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
Evidently.
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joey is a teapot |
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Posts: 69497 (11/20/2009 9:24 PM) Joey Fanatic '06
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oliverbandit wrote:Shut the fuck up. |
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oliverbandit |
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Posts: 8243 (11/20/2009 9:26 PM) |
No, fuck you!
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joey is a teapot |
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Posts: 69498 (11/20/2009 9:28 PM) Joey Fanatic '06
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Go to Hell.
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oliverbandit |
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Posts: 8244 (11/20/2009 9:29 PM) |
um.. no
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